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All the Things You Are (Kern: Very Warm For May)
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Candide
2004-10-22 21:14:04 UTC
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Just finished listening to for the umpteenth time in a row the Jeanne
Lehman, Cris Groendendal, Rebecca Luker, George Dvorsky and the
Ambrosian Chorus recording of this song and cannot get over how
beautiful it is. Grew up hearing the Frank Sinatra version but never
heard the Broadway version.

Can some one give any background to this number and or the musical "Very
Warm for May"? Is there an OBC recording?

Candide
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Oscar Wilde
Spelvin
2004-10-22 23:41:54 UTC
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Post by Candide
Just finished listening to for the umpteenth time in a row the Jeanne
Lehman, Cris Groendendal, Rebecca Luker, George Dvorsky and the
Ambrosian Chorus recording of this song and cannot get over how
beautiful it is. Grew up hearing the Frank Sinatra version but never
heard the Broadway version.
Can some one give any background to this number and or the musical
"Very Warm for May"? Is there an OBC recording?
There was a time not so long ago that "All the Things You Are" topped
the list when surveys were taken of songwriters as to the greatest
popular song ever written.

There was no OBC recording for VERY WARM FOR MAY. Broadway shows
weren't recorded with any regularity until 1943's OKLAHOMA! and VWFM was
1939. Besides, it was quite a flop, running only a few weeks. It was
Jerome Kern's last Broadway show. He defected to Hollywood for good
after that, although he was going to write the music for ANNIE GET YOUR
GUN but inconsiderately died before he got around to it.

The title of this show is a pun -- May is the leading female character
and things don't go smoothly for her. Get it?

The show deals with putting on a show. "All the Things You Are" is
merely a song from the show within the show, and it's presented as a
rehearsal of the song, and it's more or less thrown away in the show.
Kern did the same thing with another one of his masterpieces, "The Song
Is You" from MUSIC IN THE AIR. It shows you what a great composer he
was -- he even wrote masterpieces for the throwaway numbers.

VERY WARM FOR MAY was presented as an hour radio show and that is
available on CD. It includes dialogue scenes as well as songs. It
doesn't sound too bad to me, but the critics at the time felt otherwise
about the show. They were probably right.

Spelvin
Steve Newport
2004-10-23 01:41:03 UTC
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VERY WARM FOR MAY was presented as an hour radio show and that is
available on CD. It includes dialogue scenes as well as songs. It
doesn't sound too bad to me
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I have it on Lp. Time to get it out again.
I saw a production of VWFM at Equity Library Theatre-- directed by Worth
Howe, who directed me in several shows.



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Larry Rekow
2004-10-23 03:41:22 UTC
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Post by Candide
Just finished listening to for the umpteenth time in a row the Jeanne
Lehman, Cris Groendendal, Rebecca Luker, George Dvorsky and the
Ambrosian Chorus recording of this song and cannot get over how
beautiful it is. Grew up hearing the Frank Sinatra version but never
heard the Broadway version.
Can some one give any background to this number and or the musical
"Very Warm for May"? Is there an OBC recording?
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
always ranked one of the best in my book. as a songwriter, i've
always felt that richard rodgers wrote great diatonic melodies, but
that jerome kern wrote melodies with great chromatic elements.

the way kern is able to change keys and then artfully transition back
to the orginal key ("you're gonna hear from me" by previn and "spring
can really hang you up the most" are two other songs that change keys
only to return to the original)..........wonderfully done, and always
reminded me of how schubert wrote art songs.....but anyhow......

"yesterdays" and "smoke gets in your eyes" are two other great kern
songs that come to mind.

Larry Rekow
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"Forget it, Jake. It's Chinatown."
Steve Newport
2004-10-23 06:39:45 UTC
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"yesterdays" and "smoke gets in your eyes" are two other great kern
songs that come to mind.
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Both from ROBERTA-- a show audiences still loved in 2000.



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A Tsar Is Born
2004-10-27 13:34:44 UTC
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Post by Larry Rekow
"yesterdays" and "smoke gets in your eyes" are two other great kern
songs that come to mind.
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Both from ROBERTA-- a show audiences still loved in 2000.
A show my mother keeps requesting every year when Encores asks its
subscribers for suggestions. She never offers them the half million
expenses, so they always ignore her....
(She'd be good playing Roberta too.)

Jean Coeur de Lapin
Steve Newport
2004-10-27 15:13:39 UTC
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From: ***@hotmail.com (A=A0Tsar=A0Is=A0Born) <<<ROBERTA-- a show
audiences still loved in 2000.>>>
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A show my mother keeps requesting every year when Encores asks its
subscribers for suggestions. Jean Coeur de Lapin
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They should listen to her. I wonder if the live TV version with Bob
Hope, Janis Paige, John Davidson, Michele Lee, and Clifford David still
exists anywhere. Or was it, too, erased?



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UllaBelts
2004-10-23 12:12:13 UTC
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<< "yesterdays" and "smoke gets in your eyes" are two other great kern
songs that come to mind.

Larry Rekow
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"Forget it, Jake. It's Chinatown."
<BR><BR>
Long Ago and Far Away
They Didn't Believe Me
The Folks Who Live on the Hill
I Won't Dance
The Song Is You

I could go on.
Thierry
2004-10-23 10:35:29 UTC
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Post by Spelvin
The title of this show is a pun -- May is the leading female character
and things don't go smoothly for her. Get it?
There's a little bit more to it than that. May is "on the lam,"
trying to escape from her brother and his assistant (sort of a thug
type) who want to send her back to school. She hides out with a
summer stock company, whose avant-garde "artsy" director is trying --
and not succeeding too well -- to put together a show. In the
*original* version of the show -- the one that opened out of town to
rave reviews, before producer Max Gordon forced Hammerstein to
completely rewrite the book -- May is on the lam from gangsters, and
there is more menace implied in the title. In the dialogue that goes
over the lengthy musical intro to "All the Things You Are" the title
phrase is used in its conventional meaning ("It's very warm for May,
don't you think?")
Post by Spelvin
The show deals with putting on a show. "All the Things You Are" is
merely a song from the show within the show, and it's presented as a
rehearsal of the song, and it's more or less thrown away in the show.
It's not a "throw-away" at all -- although it is presented as a
rehearsal sequence, it's a long and very detailed scene/song that has
a false start and then starts again, in exactly the same glorious
arrangement that was recorded on McGlinn's album. The song is
repeated again at the end of the show, first for comic effect (as sung
by the "thug" character, Kenny), and then in the same full, beautiful
arrangement as the first time, but this time it's "real," not a
rehearsal sequence for the show.
Post by Spelvin
Kern did the same thing with another one of his masterpieces, "The Song
Is You" from MUSIC IN THE AIR. It shows you what a great composer he
was -- he even wrote masterpieces for the throwaway numbers.
I only saw MUSIC IN THE AIR once, years ago, but my memory of "The
Song is You" is that it is a "reality" song performed by the diva
character and her ex-lover,
the impressario character. "Why Was I Born" *is* thrown away, though,
sung as a rehearsal number in SWEET ADELINE -- which surprised me alot
when I saw it. It then becomes a "reality" number in Adeline's
"break-down" scene, where it is combined in a reprise with "Don't Ever
Leave Me."
Post by Spelvin
VERY WARM FOR MAY was presented as an hour radio show and that is
available on CD. It includes dialogue scenes as well as songs. It
doesn't sound too bad to me, but the critics at the time felt otherwise
about the show. They were probably right.
I've seen it twice, and both times it was wonderful -- very funny, and
that incredible score. The most noteworthy was John McGlinn's concert
version, with full orchestra, in NYC that included Jon Lovitz as the
avant-garde director, and Jeanne Lehman in Eve Arden's role of the
scatterbrained woman who owns the barn where the show is being put on.
Brent Barrett played Johnny, May's brother, and it included a "cut"
song, "Me and the Roll and You" that was very clever. The book was
quite funny.

Thierry
Steve Newport
2004-10-23 14:43:52 UTC
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mairzy-***@sbcglobal.net (Thierry)
In the *original* version of the show -- the one that opened out of town
to rave reviews, before producer Max Gordon forced Hammerstein to
completely rewrite the book
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A quote that defines "producer" is attributed to Gordon. "That guy'll
never work for me again! Unless we need him."



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John W. Kennedy
2004-10-24 04:42:11 UTC
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Post by Spelvin
The title of this show is a pun -- May is the leading female character
and things don't go smoothly for her. Get it?
I wonder if it's also an allusion to "The Arcadians" (1909, B'way 1910).

Jack: It's nice and warm, I think that
we shall have a lovely day.

Eileen: Very, very warm for May.

Jack: Eighty in the shade, they say.

Eileen: Just fancy!

Jack: It almost looks as though the
sun had really come to stay!

Both: Oh, what very charming
weather.
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Ed(NY)
2004-10-23 04:08:55 UTC
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I have a CD from 1985 which claims to be the OBCR - it is not clear when the
songs were recorded but it purports to have much of the original cast. It's
from Records Ltd., Inc. PO Box 20136, Los Angeles, Cal. 90006. #AEI-CD
008. It also says it is a limited edition arranged with The Council for
Musical Theatre.

I don't know if it's still available.
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Post by Candide
Just finished listening to for the umpteenth time in a row the Jeanne
Lehman, Cris Groendendal, Rebecca Luker, George Dvorsky and the
Ambrosian Chorus recording of this song and cannot get over how
beautiful it is. Grew up hearing the Frank Sinatra version but never
heard the Broadway version.
Can some one give any background to this number and or the musical "Very
Warm for May"? Is there an OBC recording?
Candide
--
"The truth is rarely pure and never simple"
Oscar Wilde
Candide
2004-10-23 05:40:31 UTC
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Thanks everyone for their replies (keep em coming)!

Did some research and found my EMI/Red Line recording by the London
Sinfonietta, Orchestre Philharmonique de Monte Carlo/John McGlinn was
perhaps part of another effort, Mr.McGlinn did on tunes from Broadway
musicals.

One difference in my recording is "Bill" from Show Boat is sung by
Teresa Stratas, who gives such a rendition I absolutely dare anyone not
to have a dry eye by the end.

Candide
--
"The truth is rarely pure and never simple"
Oscar Wilde
Post by Ed(NY)
I have a CD from 1985 which claims to be the OBCR - it is not clear when the
songs were recorded but it purports to have much of the original cast.
It's
Post by Ed(NY)
from Records Ltd., Inc. PO Box 20136, Los Angeles, Cal. 90006.
#AEI-CD
Post by Ed(NY)
008. It also says it is a limited edition arranged with The Council for
Musical Theatre.
I don't know if it's still available.
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Post by Candide
Just finished listening to for the umpteenth time in a row the Jeanne
Lehman, Cris Groendendal, Rebecca Luker, George Dvorsky and the
Ambrosian Chorus recording of this song and cannot get over how
beautiful it is. Grew up hearing the Frank Sinatra version but never
heard the Broadway version.
Can some one give any background to this number and or the musical "Very
Warm for May"? Is there an OBC recording?
Candide
--
"The truth is rarely pure and never simple"
Oscar Wilde
Steve Newport
2004-10-23 06:41:48 UTC
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I have a CD from 1985 which claims to be the OBCR - it is not clear when
the songs were recorded but it purports to have much of the original
cast. It's from Records Ltd., Inc. PO Box 20136, Los Angeles, Cal.
90006. #AEI-CD
008.
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I think this is the radio version mentioned.



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